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berockly (TTG) 9/25/2021 12:00 AM
I found that being flexible has helped me alog
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Im working on things such as omni lucidity and ADA
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ADA helps obtain omni
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Is that in the context of lucid dreaming? It's been quite a while since I dabbled in lucid dreams myself, but early on there was some overlap for me in doing tulpamancy and lucid dreaming, that was interesting. What is ADA?
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berockly (TTG) 9/25/2021 12:03 AM
ADA is
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All Day Awareness
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I have an article ready for you if u wanna know more but basically
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Ah. Yes that is an extremely useful skill in tulpamancy by the way. It's how you train that previously mentioned reflexive thought, essentially.
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berockly (TTG) 9/25/2021 12:04 AM
You are inertly aware of yourself
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Its also a skill im gonna teach lynn
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Also TILD means
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Tulpa Induced Lucid Dreaming
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Its a type of DILD
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(Dream initiated lucid dreaming)
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Reflexive thought?
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Consider as you go about your day: Do you need to be prompted to think as you? Tulpas do, at least initially.
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You behaving as you is deeply ingrained, and it takes tulpas a while to get there.
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berockly (TTG) 9/25/2021 12:08 AM
ADA is a state most ppl dont reach
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Its a huge way to go
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And so is omni lucidity
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If I may be bold, mindfulness as I would generally call it, is useful, but it's not something I want to do in all my waking hours.
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I quite enjoy dissociating and visualizing.
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But it teaches a useful skill in understanding the self and redirecting action that's automatic and not particularly valuable.
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That explains it much better than i can
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I'm familiar with the practice by a different name.
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berockly (TTG) 9/25/2021 12:13 AM
Oh
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It dies not nessasarily require complete and total awareness 24/7
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It totally can be that though. That's very much the goal of some Buddhist practices.
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berockly (TTG) 9/25/2021 12:20 AM
Yes
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Any tips for nurturing her though
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Besides the mindset
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Which imo has a huge imprtance
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Also zen how long have you had your tulpa
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If you had one
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Yes anything I say is couched heavily in the mindset being the most important thing. Suggestion works on acceptance and the more you accept the more rapidly it will occur.
12:22 AM
That... is a complicated question...
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Zen
Yes anything I say is couched heavily in the mindset being the most important thing. Suggestion works on acceptance and the more you accept the more rapidly it will occur.
berockly (TTG) 9/25/2021 12:23 AM
I heard that the mindset has to be as non skeptical as possible
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And it has to be accepting like u said
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You need to believe in the tulpa
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And other things are also important
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I try to stay as positive as possible
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Sometimes i tell lynn how great she is
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Let's see... back in... I think it was 2014 through -15 I make a token effort but didn't follow through. Then I came back 2019, did it for a year, then actively decided to step away because I didn't have the mindset and it wasn't working. Then I came back in 2020, immediately had success because I had a breakthrough elsewhere that allowed me to get into that headspace. However that tulpa ended up... shall we say a bit... worse for wear. I now have another, who is technically only I think just under a year old, who was initially developed as a fictional thoughtform and who I accidentally made happen concurrently in the way that authors usually do.
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Original tupper is dissipated/in stasis.
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berockly (TTG) 9/25/2021 12:26 AM
Stasis?
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They actively stepped away from existence of their own accord.
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berockly (TTG) 9/25/2021 12:26 AM
Oh
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How is that even possible
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Hoe does it work
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How*
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It's difficult to render down what occurred slowly over a period of like 2 years but essentially they became very negative after they came back. They were anxious, they felt betrayed, and it seemed they attached this to their personality for a long while. They were actively having a bad time existing while I was fine, which was... a strange experience for me. We actually repaired this issue by doing a whole hypnosis thing, but afterwards... I don't really know how to describe other than it felt like there wasn't really a reason for them to be around in the same way. And they were detracting from another thoughtform's time and mine in a way that wasn't satisfying. We found it difficult to simply want them around.
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berockly (TTG) 9/25/2021 12:30 AM
So they just stepped back?
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Yes. Still got some raw feelings on that. I can call them back at any time, they're ultimately a thoughtform still at the beck and call of the brain. But they do not wish to be a permenant fixture of our thought without good reason.
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berockly (TTG) 9/25/2021 12:31 AM
I stopped working on lynn but i never knew she could become anything until today So today i started working on her
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I spoke with them briefly just recently, after a few months of silence, in fact.
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berockly (TTG) 9/25/2021 12:31 AM
I came from the lucid dreaming community
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Happened to pass the phrase "tulpa induced lucid dream"
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And then read a guide and didnt understand it
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So i looked up what tulpas were
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And how to make one
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And then i found this community
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I wanted to lucid dream to see my imaginary friend
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Who is now my developing tulpa
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It occurs to me that I didn't actually answer the initial question on tips. If I have another beyond the acceptance-mindset it is this: Seek joy, not discipline. If you are having fun it will reinforce your behaviour. Understand that whatever relationship you want with your tulpa, you can start it now. Not later when they are "more developed". Tulpamancy is a journey, so treating it like a destination can be a trap that leads no where.
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berockly (TTG) 9/25/2021 12:36 AM
So treat it as if it is always developing?
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I don't treat tulpamancy like there's any development at all these days. The skills I'm dealing with increasing in tulpamancy are always tertiary to the core of it. If you manage to suspend belief, and you engage with a tulpa right now in the way you want to, they will in theory simply respond and you'll have that. Visualization, switching, imposition, hypnosis, all of that is tertiary to having a tulpa, none of it is necessary though it can enhance the experience.
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Forget development entirely unless it brings you excitement to increase the vividness of the experience, I suppose.
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berockly (TTG) 9/25/2021 12:39 AM
Well people and personalities develop? Constantly
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I read an article and it says
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That your cultural identity can change when you go into an unaccepting culture
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No matter how deeply embedded
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They do, but they do so fluidly with any input. There's a lot you can show and do with a tulpa, and I suppose chiefly I would suggest making sure you are doing new and interesting things in general - and not just because you need a tulpa to behave a bit more complexly. Do it for the experience, not as a chore.
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It's essentially a mindset sub-tip (edited)
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berockly (TTG) 9/25/2021 12:41 AM
Nono i enjoy it
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Even if it is for purely developing her i love doing so
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and i hope she enjoys it too
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Good good. The advice is mostly about getting you to stick to it, but I do think the less anxiety you have about the process the more likely it is to be rapid.
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We've had two newbies do this. It's built around supernatural practice (but secretly tulpamancy is stolen from chaos magic anyway so...)
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It's also a baseline for how possession can work (as distinct from switching)
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But both of the two newbies got immediate responses. Might want to try it if you don't immediately roll your eyes.
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berockly (TTG) 9/25/2021 12:46 AM
Tulpamancy itself
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Like the name
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Makes it sound like magic
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Good good. The advice is mostly about getting you to stick to it, but I do think the less anxiety you have about the process the more likely it is to be rapid.
berockly (TTG) 9/25/2021 12:51 AM
But i talk very positive to her
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Sometimes i tell her she's doing good and developing well
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And that she has made good progress whether or not it true
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Hehe. Watch out, you'll learn that when you can communicate you see the full extent of your thoughts, including the context that it's a lie. (edited)
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It's very difficult to lie effectively to a tupper
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berockly (TTG)
And that she has made good progress whether or not it true
berockly (TTG) 9/25/2021 12:53 AM
I do it to encourage her mostly
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And vice versa, of course.
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berockly (TTG) 9/25/2021 12:54 AM
Its friendly lies
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Its like telling a child "your doing great"
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To encourage them even if they aren't doing particularly great
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Ale𝕏andra 🍄🐈 9/25/2021 12:54 AM
Perhaps consider praising them for the attempt, not the results.
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Then it won't have to be a lie.
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berockly (TTG) 9/25/2021 12:55 AM
Its hard to explain
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Ive only been really working on her since today now that i know how
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But
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